Sunday, August 19, 2007

The Enemy Within.

This is the whack job of a Bishop that Fr. Jonathan Morris talked about Friday morning on the show.

Bishop urges Christians to call God 'Allah'

Catholic leader believes it would help ease tensions between religions

H/T to

Catholic churches in the Netherlands should use the name Allah for God to ease tensions between Muslims and Christians, says a Dutch bishop.

Tiny Muskens, the bishop of Breda, told the Dutch TV program "Network" Monday night he believes God doesn't mind what he is called, Radio Netherlands Worldwide reported.

The Almighty is above such "discussion and bickering," he insisted. Muskens points to Indonesia, where he served 30 years ago, as an example for Dutch churches. Christians in the Middle Eastalso use the term Allah for God.

"Someone like me has prayed to Allah yang maha kuasa (Almighty God) for eight years in Indonesia and other priests for 20 or 30 years," Muskens said. "In the heart of the Eucharist, God is called Allah over there, so why can't we start doing that together?"

Muskens thinks it could take another 100 years, but eventually the name Allah will be used by Dutch churches, promoting rapprochement between the two religions, he said, according to Radio Netherlands.

However, a survey published today in the Netherlands' largest newspaper, De Telegraaf, showed 92 percent of the more than 4,000 people polled oppose the bishop's view, the Associated Press reported.

Some letters to the paper were filled with ridicule for the bishop.

"Sure. Lets call God Allah. Lets then call a church a mosque and pray five times a day. Ramadan sounds like fun," wrote Welmoet Koppenhol.

The chairman of the Protestant Church in the Netherlands, Gerrit de Fijter, told the Dutch paper he welcomed any attempt to "create more dialogue," according to the AP. But he said, "Calling God 'Allah' does no justice to Western identity. I see no benefit in it."

A Muslim spokesman, for Amsterdam's union of Moroccan mosques, said Muslims had not asked for such a gesture from Christians, the AP reported.

Tensions with the Netherlands' 1-million-strong Muslim community have been high since the 2004 murder of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh by a Muslim avenging a film critical of Islam.

Last week, politician Geert Wilders talked about banning the Quran, shortly after the head of a group of former Muslims, Ehsan Jami, compared Islam's prophet Muhammad with al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.

Muskens made similar remarks several year ago about using the name of Allah, Radio Netherlands reported. He also suggested replacing the national Christian holiday Whit Monday – celebrated the day after Pentecost – with an Islamic religious day.

The bishop also has offended Muslims, saying in 2005 Islam was a religion without a future because it has too many violent aspects.



At 5:10 PM, Anonymous K. Rove said...

I think we should all call God "Hillary".

At 11:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's up with Catholic's lately? Will none of the Catholic leaders stand up for Christ and Christians? Let me remind all you left wing wacko so called Christians that you can not practice any religion without offending members of other religions! So stop worrying about whining Muslims or Jews or what ever other group is whining about being offended by your religion. Would you rather offend God? Go be a good Christian!

Jim in PA

At 10:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Islam = Cult = Brainwashed = Hate = Evil = Satin Himself = Allah Akbar = Satin is Great

At 12:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muslims have never asked Christians to call God, Allah. However it is simply the Arabic word for God. All Christian Arabs call God by this name. Every translation of the Bible into Arabic refers to God as Allah. Jesus, who spoke Aramaic, which is similar to both Arabic and Hebrew, called upon God with the name Alah, the intonation slightly different from Allah. God is a generic term, as He has innumerable names in many languages. The priest is opening up a situation that need not exist. Christians should use whatever name they have in whatever language they speak to call upon God. He knows when somebody is asking for Him.

At 11:28 AM, Blogger Jamie said...

This is inane! Why should non-Arabic-speaking Christians call God "Allah"? Are Muslims also going to refer to Jesus as "the Christ" or "Messiah", so as not to offend us? After all, their stated beliefs are that Jesus (God Incarnate) was "merely" a prophet, inferior to Mohammad "THE Prophet" - this is offensive to Christians: no prophet is superior to God Himself.

BTW, when Muslims stop "offending" me by blowing up cars and planes, I'll consider their proposal that their "religion of peace" isn't a load of crap.

At 2:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muslims already refer to Jesus as the Christ/Messiah. Even your Bible does not refer to him as God. Try reading it once in awhile. And please do not quote verses that could be seen in many different ways. Muslims accept all prophets as one, nobody is better than the other. Some have given us more information than others.Only the Jews treat Jesus as a false prophet. Much of the real teachings of Jesus were lost. The Gospels were written long after he left us.


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